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 Post subject: OPEN LETTER TO MAX IGAN
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:34 am 
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OPEN LETTER TO MAX IGAN

Dear Max .. I listen and watch everything you put out and have for the last 2 years. From energy to water to fracking to trust law, I enjoy your perspective and clear narrative. I consider you one of our modern day heroes; it seems Australia is almost leading the way with more than a few great thinkers.

I know you will agree with me that not everyone is great at radio interviewing. You always seem to sense when a “host” is struggling and carry the conversation onward without judgment. I admire you for this also.

I plugged you on Alex Jones, I tried to get you connected with another host here in the States and I have communicated through your website a couple of times without a response from you. I understand that you probably get hundreds of quick questions and comments and could not possibly answer every one. I have always wanted to bring up a few subjects that I have not heard you address directly. This morning I find myself with a few free moments so here goes:

I’ve got to get a bit wordy here so as you know where this comes from. At this point, I do not trust anything along the lines of historical record; Nothing. E=MC2 is in question. Of course, the founding of ANY country as far as “recorded” history is highly suspect. All religion, including the bible, is suspect. At this point, I tend to only believe “dead men”, especially those that suicided mysteriously or were plain murdered before our eyes. They are in that condition for a reason.
I have tons to write you Max, but I will cut to the chase: If EVERYTHING is energy, then, wouldn’t that make this world, universe, experience an illusion altogether? I believe it is a story from Buddhism where a Buddha is walking down the road .. (paraphrasing) .. looks down at a dead leaf, smiles and says “ahh you are only PRETENDING to die” ..and consequently says this to a few other things along the way that are in the same condition. CAVEAT (I hold ALL religion suspect and don’t know WHAT is true anymore)

The question "CENTERS" here of course, “Is there life after death?” Now, before this gets quickly, globally pushed aside, there are two things to consider: The preponderance of similar NDEs or “near death experiences” and also the ramifications of our experience if this is actually true.
Without going into the history of NDEs ; let us play hypothetical. Max, I sent you a youtube link to the NDE of a New Zealander they call “The Jellyfish Man” .. This is worth watching. I sense that he is truthful in his experience. Putting aside the theory that NDEs are just a rush of DMT and “just a death dream” ..and assuming that his experience is actually the truth, where does that leave us as far as action that we must take in our little arena of peaceful non-compliance? Would it not render the entire experience moot in its ultimate end game?

Another Buddhist quote: “I need do nothing” was Buddha’s final realization before enlightenment. It was said that Jesus’ was “The truth is true” My own father’s dying last words to me as I was with him were “nothing matters” … So I guess this really roundabout way of getting to a question is: If we are immortal in soul, doesn’t that render our circumstance here “on earth” a little less drastic?

I have no horse in this race here. I am not pushing this viewpoint; this is basically a topic and question I have always wanted to hear brought up to you

I have 3 or 4 more ideas that could keep me writing until the evening and it is only 715am now here in Upstate NY.

Max, you are the ONLY person, that addresses the “elite”, that I have heard speak of forgiveness as being key. I find this wholly courageous and it resonates with my soul. I have been a long time student of A COURSE IN MIRACLES which is a fascinating book, but, once again has been brought into my “uh oh, what if EVERYTHING ever printed by these crooks is a lie” radar… The Course talks about how easily overlooked forgiveness is, but how essential it is to our peace.

Keep up the good fight. Thank you for what you do. I look forward to writing you again, response or no response.


Sayiamu
In L’akesh?

Jeff


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:13 pm 
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Great set of questions sayiamu, if this forum had a "thanks" button Id have clicked it :cheers:

How about breaking them down into separate thread topics for us mortals to have a crack at :D


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:31 pm 
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There's another guy in Australia that's worth listening to about the idea of a spirit world, view here: http://www.youtube.com/user/WizardShak

If you can rest aside the claim of being Jesus, which will most likely be hard, but listen to what he's saying, you could find it really useful and practical in answering those questions. Btw I agree with all Max's stuff and think he's a really awesome person, because of what he does.

Anyway, I know this is directed to Max to answer, but I might just say that if we are here now, alive, and there's an opportunity to really help others and yourself as Max demonstrates, then it makes sense there's substance to life, in that there's something fruitful to learn and achieve, here and now and alive. Whether or not there's an afterlife, it couldn't change that simple fact. If we escape and avoid that reality right now, it's more than likely in an afterlife the same tendency would be still driving us - ie death isn't a magical cure for being in illusion if you know what I mean?


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:23 pm 
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Well ..I am honored ...

Thank you for addressing .. I hope you dont get an avalanche of this...

another Buddha quote came forth as I listened .."ultimately we must overcome the senses..." .. and then I tie that to ACIM's idea that "one of the main problems is that we see our bodies as an END rather than a means .."

in other words it seems like we spend all of this time feeding it ..tending it ...keeping it safe ..as if that is the ultimate goal ... where as the TRUE purpose of the thing is that it is simply a communication device .....

our "soul" or that of us that is immortal ..simpy uses it to communicate on this plane... it doesnt have the ultimate value that society places on it... especially since in the presence of eternal it expires rather quickly ....

again .. thank you Max ..I am still curious if you watched the NDE of Ian MCCormick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTU7MfOg ... re=related

I will not extend you any further .. like I said I have a couple other topics that I would throw at you when my writing mood strikes..... but I respect your schedule .... I just dont want to distract you from your own awsomeness ... hows that for adolescent admiration ? :axe: :rofl:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:18 am 
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Hey there,

I'm also a new member to this site, and have only discovered the exceptional Max Igan videos on youtube over the past week or so (please let's do better than youtube), through which I thankfully find myself on this site.

Thank you so much Max for your work and superior, Intelligent focus in a world of powerful emotional illusion and degradation. Now this next paragraph is a copy/past from my initial post, as just now permitted - and thanks again for that.

I'm not trying to stir up controversy at all, however would like to note that there are a couple of statements early on (around 4 or 5 mins into 'The Awakening'), that are factually incorrect. They have to do with the role (our) emotions play within (our) consciousness. This is not a simple topic to tackle, but it really is terribly essential to who we are, and all existence is."

People generally refer to consciousness or mind or mentality or even cosmic consciousness etc., and reason that they have well covered the issue, however this generic misunderstanding, is terribly incomplete, and effectively isolates or ignores the (by far) most essential reality - INTELLIGENCE, which is a travesty of the highest order, and what I'd like to explore here.

Take a simple man for instance, who has come into existence through a two-sided interaction between male & female. He lives within the two sides of his brain, two sides of his mental processing and two sides to his nature - let's say 'good' and 'bad'. We're all aware that sometimes we make 'bad' choices when really we should have made 'good', yet the really frustrating thing is that we were not ignorant of that good choice, yet still selected the opposite. Therefore we in fact have two sides to our consciousness - let's again say good and bad.

There is an extremely vital reason for this often frustrating dichotomy within our consciousness, within which our choices are imagined, considered, determined, and subsequent actions taken - being the definition of the SPIRITUAL (mentality) becoming PHYSICAL (result of action). The reason is our consciousness itself is a dichotomy, the dynamic result of the constant conjoining of TWO preeminent inputs - our EMOTIONS and INTELLIGENCE.

Consider how we all know that 'Intelligent' choices are better/more constructive than emotional choices, which are more destructive; the more emotion involved in the motives behind the choice, the more destructive the result.

This dichotomy doesn't stop there, for these two preeminent inputs enter our consciousness continually, via two vastly differing, one could say antithetical sources. Our emotions are indeed 'memories' as derived from the physical realm of our environment via previous sensory input into our awareness/consciousness, and are all based primarily upon FEAR, by various doses.

The other (antithetical) side of this coin is based upon the opposite of fear - LOVE, and what man terms these days "INTELLIGENCE" (otherwise misrepresented religiously as 'God'). Yet whilst this GENETIC dimension of our being is also an integral part of our environment, it enters our awareness/consciousness not from the physical aspect of our existence, but belongs to, and is a quantum of a far more expansive and embracing reality - as our portion of the universe; the omnipresent SPIRITUAL realm, WHO indeed is INTELLIGENT.

So we enjoy Intelligence, not by accident nor evolutionary process, but because that is precisely who we are, as an integral Intelligent fragment of the whole; by definition - INTELLIGENCE HIMSELF! However this fragment of the INTELLIGENT UNIVERSE that we are, is also exposed by design to a most pivotal experience; indeed the antithesis of LOVE/INTELLIGENCE for a specific, awesome purpose, which I would like to explore further if anyone is willing.

So when we consider a universal consciousness, we're making a serious error in interpretation, for by definition consciousness is a dichotomy, yet the Universe has no emotion, no hate, no antithesis, no contradiction, other than evinced upon planet Earth, that is. The Universe is singularity, again; INTELLIGENCE HIMSELF - with no dichotomy.


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