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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:39 am 
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Hey Max and everyone,
I am half way through listening to your Australia in crisis broadcast and I had to come straight here and let it out. I love your work and always feel an "Aussie connection or understanding" when you speak, but the way you said it in this one was just spot on with where I'm at ! I just don't know mate, Its been a lonely road since I woke up..as they say.. That was 4 years ago. I soon learned that NWO, occult, esoteric, spiritual information e.c.t would make most peoples heads explode... but you would think I could get through some basics regarding health or media or something to some people !! I have got no where, Im at the point of giving up, or at least just expressing it through music & art... If I can't get through shit to my family and friends, what chance do I have with any one else ? Anyway I just realised I could keep writing all day, so I will give just one recent example of ignorance or stupidity or what ever it is. As I said I had tried teaching or informing some basics. including fluoride but I had been unsuccessful in converting anyone to clean water, anyway I decided to PH my families tap water, as i had a good digital PH meter and that way I could show them the numbers. I was expecting it to read 6.8, 6.7, 6.6 maybe, no the water was 6. fucking 1. (and my mum is still in cancer remission drinking & cooking with this shit, Im glad i hadn't given up) So I decided to call the local water board, and tell them about the acid coming out of the taps and also get any other information. So I call, the guy picks up, he sounded like a nice bloke, so I made him aware that I knew my shit and that it wasn't complaining I just wanted all the gory details.. I told him the results and he was like "shit, yeah thats to low...we have been having trouble regulating the water lately" I assumed that the water very dirty, and like a pool or fish tank acid would clear up the water.. I asked if they used some kind of acid like hydrochloric acid to drop the PH ? he said "no we don't use acid, we use aluminium sulphate.... and lime to bring it up" I asked "if fluoride was added and for how long" He said "yes, 6 months" i said "you know fluoride is poison" he said "yeah I know mate, the boys (workers) don't even like to touch the stuff" He also said the amount of fluoride added had been increased twice in that first 6 months, and that the request came from high up, and that they were told very little (they were probably monitoring its strength by human effects, as there is no way of testing the strength in the water) also that they add chlorine, and that the water comes out of the poor river very acidic and they don't like to use to much lime ? Thats why PH is so low. I ended the call by saying "oh well thanks for that, I was just calling for someone else anyway, because I don't drink the shit" to which he firmly replied " I wouldn't either mate !!!!!"
Part of my point was I made that call on loud speaker, with my mum and sister present... The penny finally dropped and they acknowledged that something ain't right with the water. But heres the crazy bit , I went and bought eight 20 litter bottles of water and gave them to the family to get them started... until they got tank or filters e.c.t (and Im the poor one in the family) anyway a few weeks later I was at my sisters house and she offers me a cup of tea, and i instinctively asked if it was tap water AND SHE SAID YES ?!?! I told her she was a fucking idiot, then she starts screaming at me like I was the fucking water nazi or something.... Oh well what do ya do...


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:33 am 
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Dude I so hear you !;)

I called the water authority and had a very similar conversation (for the benefit of my coworkers) . I've argued this point till I'm blue in the face and have found a great way to start the process ! It goes like this : " I will give you 5000 if you can give me one credible scientific report that shows this stuff is good for us!" sad but money talks ! They always come back a week or two later and say, "fuck - did you know bla bla bla bla". The trick is to not preach, but rather to encourage self exploration. We have all been tricked into this prison of truths and anything that counters hose truths is a threat to our entire existence ! But once people realize that something like water isn't right, they are well positioned to accept other facts. I use to blurt it all out at once ranging from the false economy, to the satanic NWO, to Martin Bryant you name it ! You've got to understand that when one endures 3 to 4 hours of psychologically enhanced brainwashing every day, the inroads you can make must be gradual and slow ! But I hear your pain!;)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:54 pm 
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jimmy wrote:
Lead by example: Don't drink the water, for your reasons. They should respect that, as
you should respect their decision to drink it if they decide to. The only way to help
is to go to peace with it and act in an understanding way. "Tap water sis? - yeah?- No thank you,
poisons and all - you understand?"

If that were the way that you responded, maybe you wouldn't have ruined her day.

You can't change the world my friend, you can only change you. Stop kicking
yourself, it's not your fault.
Be what others can aspire to be and they will come asking
the questions, if they are meant to that is... It's all you can do.



jimmy



Ah them's some nice words mate..
My family swear's like the Ozbourne's, ( rarely name call, but rolls off if we do) Me saying she is (being) a fucking idiot, is the same as saying " tap acid - no sis- what about my 1 year old niece- poisons and all" just less words, no manners..
Some one's gotta ring her little bell on this one..
(acidic water is way worse than just fluoridated water man, your bodies PH is one of the most essential functions in the body, and I believe its a root cause of most disease and other problems)
And like Max says if you are going to deny your ingesting fluoride, maybe thats because the fluoride working.. Also everything I have learned on conspiratorial, occult, esoteric e.c.t has been self discovered.. I sometimes think It would have been nice to have been offered help and good information.. I would have taken it , not turned it down.. But I know, the knowledge finds you when you are ready.. Guess Im always ready..
In saying all that, everything you said is really kind and true !!!
Thanks a lot man.. Right on..
All I can do...


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:49 pm 
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sunszu wrote:
Dude I so hear you !;)

I called the water authority and had a very similar conversation (for the benefit of my coworkers) . I've argued this point till I'm blue in the face and have found a great way to start the process ! It goes like this : " I will give you 5000 if you can give me one credible scientific report that shows this stuff is good for us!" sad but money talks ! They always come back a week or two later and say, "fuck - did you know bla bla bla bla". The trick is to not preach, but rather to encourage self exploration. We have all been tricked into this prison of truths and anything that counters hose truths is a threat to our entire existence ! But once people realize that something like water isn't right, they are well positioned to accept other facts. I use to blurt it all out at once ranging from the false economy, to the satanic NWO, to Martin Bryant you name it ! You've got to understand that when one endures 3 to 4 hours of psychologically enhanced brainwashing every day, the inroads you can make must be gradual and slow ! But I hear your pain!;)



Yaeh too right man.. Teach not Preach is how it flow's.. I had been very patient on this one tho... I know what you mean tho conspiracy talk can get very loose..
Some people can just say "you need to get some good water, that shit is not good for you" and they are heard...
Maybe its just my denial and my opinion just aint that respected.... Maybe its not and people need to learn the following..... what do I need to know before taking this guy's advice ???? (He is my bro,) He is smart, I trust him, he never lies or talks shit, he is rarely wrong, good reliable advice, he loves me... This could be a good source for advice.... He did say it was bad for me, sounds like "must take advice"....

And I don't even need to learn the boring details about water... & saves him talking about it... But if I do want to know , he will happily teach me....saves me a lot a researching.... Bonus.......


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:05 pm 
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Has anyone ever offered you advice and/or tried informing you of something without you asking for the advice/information? If so, how did it make you feel? Personally, it used to upset me because I assumed that I must be in need of advice and/or uninformed; now I know it's simply what the other perceives, and not necessarily reality, but many people seem to believe everything others think about them.

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My Life is My Message! ~Gandhi


I happen to agree with jimmy; be the change, and if the change(s) bear "good" fruit, those that are meant to will either just start doing the same or ask how they can do so. It might seem difficult to acknowledge this, especially if you really want to change the world; it was for me at first, but looking back, a gigantic burden has been lifted from me.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:30 am 
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Yes, agree - change yourself to change your reality.
The outer world is a reflection of your inner world.

When I let go of the anger and hurt I once had of all the perceived injustices that others have done to me and my family,
changed my attitude from competition survival mode driven to one appeciating all the good things and relationships,
I started to notice that my life and people in my life have changed for the better.

I think this song sums up this realisation ...



I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change

- MICHAEL JACKSON, Man In The Mirror

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:33 am 
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Theres heaps of chlorine down here on the peninsula, it stinks, i dont even drink much water anymore, teaching my body to go without water for as long as i can, sometimes up to 3 days without a glass of water now, i get it from food instead, have a rain tank but, its not clean either due to roof materials etc, hard to win situation isnt it? filters are the answer to a degree.

Who is doing this to us? criminal .

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:50 am 
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Dreamingod wrote:
Yes, agree - change yourself to change your reality.
The outer world is a reflection of your inner world.

When I let go of the anger and hurt I once had of all the perceived injustices that others have done to me and my family,
changed my attitude from competition survival mode driven to one appeciating all the good things and relationships,
I started to notice that my life and people in my life have changed for the better.

I think this song sums up this realisation ...



I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change

- MICHAEL JACKSON, Man In The Mirror



Well that made me smile... Ive been listening to some Michael Jackson acoustic covers on youtube lately.. check them out ,awesome. Also have you watched that "Michael Jackson Illuminati" vid on youtube, its actually pretty interesting..


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:10 am 
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mediasorcerer wrote:
Theres heaps of chlorine down here on the peninsula, it stinks, i dont even drink much water anymore, teaching my body to go without water for as long as i can, sometimes up to 3 days without a glass of water now, i get it from food instead, have a rain tank but, its not clean either due to roof materials etc, hard to win situation isnt it? filters are the answer to a degree.

Who is doing this to us? criminal .


Yo, thats crazy talk man, buy a little bit of good quality spring water. But yeah I am getting a crazy reverse osmosis soon, can't wait.

Check this video out-------- "Water, Natural salt (Not sodium) first, then diet and exercise in that order!"


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:24 am 
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MasterChiefa wrote:
Has anyone ever offered you advice and/or tried informing you of something without you asking for the advice/information? If so, how did it make you feel? Personally, it used to upset me because I assumed that I must be in need of advice and/or uninformed; now I know it's simply what the other perceives, and not necessarily reality, but many people seem to believe everything others think about them.

Quote:
My Life is My Message! ~Gandhi


I happen to agree with jimmy; be the change, and if the change(s) bear "good" fruit, those that are meant to will either just start doing the same or ask how they can do so. It might seem difficult to acknowledge this, especially if you really want to change the world; it was for me at first, but looking back, a gigantic burden has been lifted from me.


(Personally, it used to upset me because I assumed that I must be in need of advice and/or uninformed;) NO NO NO I have never thought like that, thank god.

And of course I agree with Jimmy, I agreed with him before i posted this thread, I just wanted to hear someone say it.. That's why I came to the crow house forum.


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