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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:22 pm 
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Hey Guys, :greet:

It's a very difficult place to live...
I could write books on our experiences here.... What we've witnessed with our own eyes.
Daily life is so difficult, getting through each day can really be a struggle.
The occupation is so strong and they make the lives of the people so difficult so they don't have a free second to stop and see the deeper truth/reality behind it all...
The chemtrails are being sprayed here big time, but nobody really believes or cares. The problems in the skys are too far away for these people, they can barely deal with the problems on the ground...
We gotta wake these people up somehow.

Love and light to everyone for eternity,
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:31 am 
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I must say that in the last few weeks or so their has been loads of info and video's posted, definately worth a look see here. Thanks to Ninjassan for loads of news around the world!!! 8-)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:16 am 
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I got kicked, my account deleted I kept trying to recover it for a while and I stopped coming because of that.
Did anyone else have problems with their accounts?
I had to make a new one


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:04 pm 
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I just joined but I have not seen much action on here... Willing to share and talk if there is something real here.. : )


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:14 pm 
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There has been some good subjects previously but sometimes it's a bit quiet, just needs us all to post some interesting info and videos' etc and also to make some comments!! 8-)


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:50 pm 
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saveyer wrote:
Thomas Jefferson,

Your analysis of the Australian Sovereignty Party (ASP) is the exact opposite of what the Party actually represents.
It appears you have mistaken some of the terminology used by the ASP for conspiracy reference material and misguided links to portray the Party as part of the very establishment that repulses it.

If you visited the ASP website just to trash and ridicule what you may believe the Party represents, why didn’t you access the policies section to see if your views could be justified? If you had done this, you would have seen how wrong and irresponsible it was of you to try to confuse people about what the party is all about.


Since I posted what you responded to I have not been back till now.

I need to ask, "what are you talking about sav?" Are you suggesting that by reading any political party's polices that we will acquire their truthful intent? Or are you suggesting that my educated and intuitive view on them MUST be wrong? I have said what I know about them and that's that as far as I'm concerned. I do not take these things lightly, they are a SCAM as all other political party's are, so get over it. Or is it that you are somehow affiliated or associated with them? One thing is certain, I'm not.

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These forums are important links of information dissemination that should eventually lead to physical action when petitions and protests fail to deliver necessary change for the betterment of humanity.


Poppy-cock it will lead to anything other than wasting peoples time.

Brian and his mob have been at it now for so long it's not funny. If they were to have succeeded in ANYTHING there would have been clear indication of it from long ago. Fact is that ANYONE who pursues the CON-stitution for remedy needs a reality check, no matter how bright they may appear.

It is the CON-stitution that allowed them to come in and COVER the land of Australia with imaginary WATER, thereby placing it under Admiralty.

It is the CON-stitution that ONLY deals with "CITIZENS" and NOT men and women. Check up the definition of a "CITIZEN" in a law dictionary and know well that I am NOT ONE.

It is the CON-stitution that is NO LONGER acknowledged by the judiciary yet the AST insists on pursuing it for the people's remedy.

And don't forget that it is also the CON-stitution that is a STATUTE and not a true set of LAWS.


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Unified people are the most powerful force on the planet and it is time we are reminded of that fact

Firstly, below are some reasons why Australians should support the ASP;
• We stand for True Democracy; not the illusion of it.
• We defend our constitution, sovereignty & bill of rights.
• ASP will reduce the size of big brother government, and make government accountable to the people!
• Replace ALL taxation with a single ‘fair tax’ system, and reduce interest rates, inflation and debt.
• Remove income tax and GST.
• Implement an ‘honest money’ system.
• Keep jobs and manufacturing in Australia to eliminate unemployment.
• Genuine, proactive environmental care.
• All utilities and resources of the Commonwealth to be owned by the people!
• Removing all speeding (revenue raising) cameras.
• Removing all toll roads.
• High quality health care, public transportation, and education.
• ASP will end the banking cartels domination and control of our economy
• Steer Australia away from the New World Order & centralised governance

How you could have linked the ASP with all the nonsense about the elite criminals (of which the Party despises) who currently rule the world as you stated above is ill informed and dangerously paranoid.
I can’t fathom how you have concluded that the Party is as corrupt as the present establishment, it defies any logic! The ASP represents the constitution – Like it or not, it contains the most comprehensive and best bill of human rights ever written in the history of our civilization! It is the only defence we have against the establishment who want to corporatize everything and destroy our ability to defend ourselves from the slavery of the system.


I can tell that there is A LOT about law that you do NOT fathom, that is why you pursue the CON-stitution.

Wake up saveyer and stop leading newcomers up the garden path with this CON-stitution crap that can NEVER provide the people with what it is you want.

Open your eyes man and look at HOW the world is setup.

I have been OFFSETTING all my debts here in Oz for years now. I do NOT have to pay a cent in personal tax for years now. I cannot be charged under any statute for years now. I have MORE compliments-letters and thank-you letters from the Commissioner and the Director of DEBT of the ATO than you can poke a stick at.... I get them EVERY TIME I send in an OFFSET. Tell me sav, HOW many have you received by using the CON-stitution to prove your incompetence to them whilst hoping to seek remedy? Blokes like Rob Crombie and Pytellel and McMurtrie and others KNOW of me and they can confirm what I say. It's just that they do NOT know HOW I do it, that's because the only way to do it is to LEARN the LAW YOURSELF. TO OWN THE THING.

And I can assure you that the CON-stitution had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Pull your head out of the hole you've plugged and start looking at where the ONLY remedy exists.

Learn all about the principles of USUFRUCT and learn all you can about Statutory and NON-Statutory TRUST LAW.

Once you do, then you'll be posting about what a bunch of BULLSHIT the ASP are...

... and NOT before.

Wake up man. They have provided us ALL with redemption and remedy... BUT NOT under the CON-stitution NOR Admiralty. Under either of those YOU ARE A SLAVE... DEAD in the water... INCOMPETENT.... SOULLESS. YOU cannot be seen or heard in any court. YOU ARE NOT A BENEFICIARY under those laws, you are a slave and incompetent, respectively.

And there you shall eternally remain so long as you seek the BIG CON. You see, while you are trying to have them place you under the CON-stitution, which they never will, you remain under Admiralty upon their rejection. Either way, you remain a SLAVE that is soulless and incompetent... a WARD of the State. Why can you not see or comprehend that? Why have you NOT searched for a viable alternative, are REAL REMEDY, REAL protection from them?

Whether you realise it or not, what I am telling you here is the BEST ADVICE you've ever had, going by where you are.

Have a good day and remember... YOUR MASTERS ARE WATCHING YOU.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:43 pm 
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Maybe it's just my opinion, but as long as we can keep compassion fresh in our minds from time to time, we're still keeping the cause alive.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:03 pm 
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Dear Thomas Jefferson,

Hello my friend. :D :greet: It appears that you possess a great understanding of law. Such that it raises the question of whether you studied at university or privately on your own. My guess is that you must have studied on your own. Because, you were most likely not taught the inights you seemed to have gained by any university. :)

I haven't noticed any of your posts on the crowhouse house forums before. I love your screen name bye the way. :) But then I haven't been here myself for very long. ;) So if you haven't posted much here that might explain it. And to be honest, I didn't think to look at how long you've been a member before coming here to compose a reply. So I suppose it is also possible that you are new here. ;) And if that is the case, then I wouldn't want to miss this opportunity to welcome you. :D

At any rate, I certainly appreciate your insight and understanding of the law. It sure is one of those things that have been encrypted, (so to speak) by those who create it. In order that they should retain thier unjust power and influence over the rest of us. In reading your post above, it seems many of us here, could benefit greatly by your understanding of law. :) I hope that you will grace us by sharing your knowledge and guidance on how we too may use it to our own advantage. :D If so, I think it would be most helpful to you, in getting your points across, if you could relate the information in a non abrasive manner, without condesending sentimate. ;) No need to sugar coat things for the awake and aware crowd here at the crowhouse. :D But I'm pretty sure, no matter where you are, to display an opinion with such condesention and lack of empathy will have no favorable result. ;) But that's only my opinion, and there can be no doubt, I'm no expert. :D


I do love the crowhouse, and all the people who post here! This place has become my beakon hope. And I know that your knowledge and understanding could go a long way toward making it even more valuable a resource for everyone. :D Some have said, and may well see it, as a waste of time. But I'm quite sure that this is solely because they are mis-informed. Only because, I recognize it as the most valuable time I've ever spent. :D At least as it relates to peace, love and harmonious human relationships. ;) And really, without these things what use is anything else? :D

Love and Gratitude


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:25 am 
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If so, I think it would be most helpful to you, in getting your points across, if you could relate the information in a non abrasive manner, without condesending sentimate.


Condesending sentimate is only directed at condesendees, I wonder why YOU made no comment about sav's response. Those who bitch in my direction shall be bitch-slapped... more so when they know NOT what they are on about, like sav.


To clarify the Constitution once and for all, here Leo, for your and other good peoples benefit, I will explain the TRUTHFUL and LAWFUL and LEGAL definition of any Constitution and where it places those that stand by or under it, as follows:

A Constitution is a particular Form of Deed of an Temporary Testamentary Trust, also known as a cestui Que (Vie) Trust forming a Trust Corpus, also known as a Body Corporate and Estate and therefore Corporate Personality administered by Executors and their Administrators for the Beneficiaries of the Estate. The word is derived from two Latin words con meaning "with, together" and statuo meaning "decree, statute or judgment".

So in essence, a Constitution is a WILL, for the benefit of the DEAD, not the living. Which opens ANOTHER can of worms as to WHY on earth people that die leave their property and possessions to their beloved in a WILL. Because in a WILL there are NO HEIRS, only beneficiaries. And beneficiaries have RIGHTS, not DOMINION or OWNERSHIP. Property and assets in a WILL are OWNED by the State, not the beneficiary, because the given WILL is REGISTERED on the STATE's REGISTRY (registering anything CONVEYS its property), so can be denied or taken from the beneficiary if the State wishes. The State is owner, the beneficiary only has right of equitable use, nothing more. What people should be leaving for their loved ones, again, as in place of the CON-stitution, is a living constructive TRUST that matures upon the death of the grantor/settlor. NOT A WILL.

Only in TRUST can the State NOT touch ones property and assets. Now you know the TRUE meaning of the words used by the Americans, "In God We Trust". That is why they do not state "In God we believe" or something similar. They are giving you a hint as to WHERE their most powerful LAW is sourced, not to be confused with religious bias.

So there you have it.

You need NOT go to AST's site and read all the convoluted HOOHAR they portray as our salvation. That is meant to entrap you in the delusion of freedom and keep you there, and that is WHY the State has approved their existence.

It is in the fundamental, the basics, that the truth, the essence of ones intent can be found, not in their lengthy and thought out abstracts and preachings that are based on intellectualism of the given subject to the point of losing the essence of what it is they are portraying via disdirection and confusing most minds.

In the words of the great Edgar Poe; "Experience has shown, and a true philosophy will always show, that a vast, perhaps the larger portion of the truth arises from the seemingly irrelevant."

Why look into the depths of a situation when its genesis is monumentally flawed?

You want the CON-stitution to RULE? That's fine, go ahead and declare your legal death and incompetence for all to see, then go on bitching how the judiciary is filled with treason and contempt for treating you as you have asked - it's your life and grave.

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"Whatever Is Covered Up Will Be Uncovered And Every Secret Will Be Made Known" - Luke 12:2


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:45 pm 
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Hello again Thomas Jefferson :D

Thanks to the clairfication of the constitution. :) I've had a good look at law, it's beginnings and how it is used by the priviledged to exersize unjust influence over the rest. Certainly not to the depth and degree you have. :) Enough though, to see that no political party, nor governmental organization will likely ever result in a truly just system, nor any dignified, compassionate equality or true personal liberty. Simply because the systems of law and politics were created and has been continually organized specifically to disallow it. And as Albert Einstein put it, "No problem can be solved with the same level of consciousness that created it". (paraphrased)

I didn't speak to saveyer's remarks for a couple of reasons. Saveyer had found ASP to be of value, to such a degree that compelled considerable personal investment. That is to be respected in my book. :) Especially in these times, with personal conviction gone by the wayside. Whether I find myself in agreement with it or not is irrelevant. The same is exactly true with you. Your conviction is also respectable. The fact that I happen to find myself in agreement it thought, doesn't make it any more so, nor saveyer's any less. Both should be respected fully I think. :) I surely hope my commentary hasn't come of otherwise. ;) Having seen saveyer's conviction, it only stood to reason that some feathers would be ruffled, by what could only have been taken as a mildly abbrasive assult. Saveyer's reply to your input, (if not justified by the respect issue then, still predictable) ruffled some feathers in return. That's when the claws really came out. :D

My remarks were aimed at you by the precieved validity of you insights. That they should be given serious considration and not immediately dismissed for the manner in which they were delivered. Having no political bias of my own, it appears obvious to me that your understandings are indeed valid. Without pre-conceived ideas to be threatened by them, it's much easier to see the truth of your insights. So, I reckoned that was the best approach to the situation, for all to have a chance at taking your insights seriously. :)

I wonder how you would feel about writing a discussion topic on the most effective things each of us could be doing, leagally speaking, to resist the tyranny behind the labyrinth? As well as anything else you see about resisting the behemoth. I know I sure would be very interested in getting your "big picture" perspective on all this. :D

Thanks my friend :D


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