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Well, there is quite a bit of info out there about these two beliefs, some of it is contradictory and paradoxical, some of it is lies, and some of it is the truth.
But this is my understanding of them both,

Very simply put, Satanism is about the Ego, and fulfilling your carnal/natural needs and desires.

Luciferianism on the other hand is about advancing psychic ability and developing spiritually.

Here are a couple of great vids on the topic, he explains it with more detail.

Part One



Part Two



As for me, I have Satanic and Luciferian beliefs, though I prefer not to label myself 'Satanic' or 'Luciferian' as this breeds seperation and conflict, the 'Us and Them' mentality, the 'either, or' way of thinking, which is the cause of all the problems of humanity.

"Dont take names to yourself Smeagol, it is unwise, whether they are true or false." - Frodo to Gollum, in the Lord of the Rings
If you ponder on this for a while, you will find that Frodo was speaking the truth.

Im sure you have all heard of the 'Satanic Ritual Abuse' cases where mentally ill, low-life, self proclaimed Satanists go out in a full moon and perform blood rituals and sacrifices. These people dont know anything about Satanism except for what they have seen in the movies or on T.V.

And Im sure you have all heard of the Inquisition aswell, where the Church designed many different horrific devices and ways to torture thousands (if not millions) of innocent Men, Woman and Children.

"Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years." - The Ninth Satanic statement, the Satanic Bible.

I just need to ask... Waking, what is with the goat avatar?

At the lower levels of freemasonry, ie the first 3 degrees it is nothing more than a gentlemens club with a few very repetitive rituals which occurr throughout the year. I was invitet to be a freemason and went through the third degree. I resigned because I could feel the uncomfortable pressure to conform to a system which promoted blind servitude and it is only in the higher degrees (33rd onwards) that the more sinister side of masonry is revealed and even then only to suitable initiates. Freemasonry appears to be a luciferian religion which is evil sand corrupt at high levels.It may not have always been like that however evidence suggests that in the 1700's it was infiltrated by the Illuminati.
Do some research before getting roped in, I would not have joined if I knew what I know now.

The whole freemason thing at the lower levels was like a group of elderly men having a game of childish secrets with each other with an outwardly smug demeanor from those who have been embelished with greater secrets as in higher office. In an almost military manner servitude and honouring of the higher ranks seemed mandatory, however whenever I asked a question about the rituals or conformity, no'one appeared to know what the rituals were really about.
It was very much like the Emperors clothes syndrome where everyone conforms to rituals without asking what they were.
Interesting to watch mature men shaking with nervousness before a ritual or rendition of a speech from masonic literature,(perfomed many times before) where the speaker would be judged and applauded on how well he did the presentation.
I would say with the knowledge I now have thanks to sites such as this, that freemasonry is one of the chosen "carrier pidgeons" to forward the illuminati agenda, is that what we want??

I know some freemasons also. They are the most generous and loving people. The only thing I don't approve of is that they don't allow women into their clubs