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:new: ...So be nice please! :S
Thought i'd post one of my most interesting, (albeit personal) stories here for a first post. Something to explain my experiences and hopefully get some good ideas running about the topic as well. (It's something I've been interested in for a while now, that I hope to gain more of an understanding, as well as share this amazing anomaly with somewhat like-minded individuals.)

I had a really freaky experience with a form of audio entrainment mechanism.
The sound file I experiemented with I hadn't known what it was called at the time, or what it was really about, but I was persuaded to experiment with it to see how it effected me. I was new to this too, not much of a savant in the field whatsoever.
So here goes...my personal experience..
I decided to test out a sound frequency file given to me by first laying back for five minutes on my bed with only a candle for light..meditating, then I had track playing through ear bud headphones.

(I had a new friend chatting with me online at the time, so I asked him to wait for me to report my experience immediatly after.)

As I lay back with the sound playing I was instantly thrown into a very weird state from the strange, but interestingly pleasant sounds. (like alien angels...:S)

The first thing to notice was that my eyelids were fluttering madly. I couldn't stop them, and in hoping of not interrupt my empty thoughts I decided to ignore this effect.

Within my warm and aware state I noted a mildly intense rising sensation. It felt as if my entire body was lifting. (never had this experience while meditating, like that, at all before).

I also noticed that my thoughts strayed slightly toward thinking about this new friend of mine, so that I made myself lightly pushed the thoughts away to stay focused.

As I experienced all sorts of strange images. I'm going to share a couple that seemed later to me to be more important than the rest. (though the others tied in with some other freaky things I won't get into right now).

Fairies, gnomes and a beautiful female with long wavy brown hair started popping into my imagination. I had no explanation for this as I did not have any reference for these sorts of images. I don't think about fairies, ladies who look like she did and especially not gnomes...I don't even read fairy tale types of books, nor watch movies like this.

When the sound file finished I explained the experience to my friend online. He was surprised by the imagery at the end because, as he was thinking about me the entire time, he had been watching youtube videos with clips from a movie i'd never seen. He was planning to send one of them to me.
They were images from the movie Legend. He sent the video right away and I was really kinda freaked and shocked because the the female I saw looked EXACTLY like Lilly, (a main character) , she even had the same facial expression and the other characters in the film were just as I saw. (Maybe just coincidence?)

Like I said, i've never seen or heard of this movie, ever before.. so they was naturally quite freaky and exciting for me. (it's from the 80's starring Tom cruise, there's fairies and gnomes featured throughout the entire movie.) I hadn't known what the file was all about untill I later found out it was, "a partial model of the average sensory reaction of the mind to the substance", ... of Salvia Divinorum, (converted into sounds).... weeeeeeiird...

So, let know what you think if you like..Especially if you've experienced or heard of this before.

Besides that, I enjoyed the sounds, they were like Alien spaceship sounds...or heavenly, birdy tweedles and crystals.


Thanks for listening,

-'Munchkin Elle'


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:11 am 
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Welcome MaroonedMoon,

What you described sounds like 'phasing'. You retain full awarenss during the experience.
http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

Sound technology, such as binaural beats have reported some success in brain entrainment ie helps to synchronise both hemispheres of the brain to achieve different/higher consciousness states.
Hemi-Sync was one of the first to pioneer this tool: http://www.monroeinstitute.org/hemi-sync/
A free sound file is here: http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Free_Deep_Meditation_Sounds_-_Binaural_Beats_files/The_Far_Countries-Multidimensional_Man.mp3


After relaxation, the initial stages of phasing contains hypnagogic imagery. If one pays further attention, then these images will take more form and increase in clarity.

The suggestibility of the music and sound effects together with your associations with said music created a fantastical canvas in your mind landscape.
With the powers of consciousness and imagi(c)nation you created a sensorial alternate reality for yourself to experience.
Many people like myself practise phasing and controlled out of body experiences to explore ourselves and have fun :)

Next time, you can think of yourself into the scene and be one of the characters, instead of maintaining 'observer' mode.
Here in the 'astral' plane (lack of a better word) your thoughts & intent = instant manifestation/creation.

Thanks for sharing your alternate reality experience. I enjoyed reading it.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Dreamingod wrote:
Welcome MaroonedMoon,

What you described sounds like 'phasing'. You retain full awarenss during the experience.
http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

Sound technology, such as binaural beats have reported some success in brain entrainment ie helps to synchronise both hemispheres of the brain to achieve different/higher consciousness states.
Hemi-Sync was one of the first to pioneer this tool: http://www.monroeinstitute.org/hemi-sync/
A free sound file is here: http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Free_Deep_Meditation_Sounds_-_Binaural_Beats_files/The_Far_Countries-Multidimensional_Man.mp3


After relaxation, the initial stages of phasing contains hypnagogic imagery. If one pays further attention, then these images will take more form and increase in clarity.

The suggestibility of the music and sound effects together with your associations with said music created a fantastical canvas in your mind landscape.
With the powers of consciousness and imagi(c)nation you created a sensorial alternate reality for yourself to experience.
Many people like myself practise phasing and controlled out of body experiences to explore ourselves and have fun :)

Next time, you can think of yourself into the scene and be one of the characters, instead of maintaining 'observer' mode.
Here in the 'astral' plane (lack of a better word) your thoughts & intent = instant manifestation/creation.

Thanks for sharing your alternate reality experience. I enjoyed reading it.


Ah, I see what you mean. I understand the different brainwave states and what they can induce in the user, so what you're saying makes a lot of sense, and I wonder why I would have decided to imagine parts movie I that I have never seen before, strange indeed!

I've heard about the Monroe institutes work. They sound to be very effective indeed. I read through the info on this new scientists work and it looks like he's doing something entirely different, and newer than what those guys developed. People are reporting that it is far more powerful than the older technology of binaural beats.

I have practiced energy work in the past and felt I wasn't grounded enough. (Uncomfortable sensations in my knees down to my feet.)

Maybe now I can try to go deeper into the experience with the use of these sound files!

Also, I can see why you would feel it is important to maintain a sense of self in this experience! I've experienced both!

Hopefully I will experience this again when I do another meditation exercise with the new 'sounds.'

Thanks for your response, it was very helpful!

:)

-'Munchkin Elle'


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:24 pm 
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MaroonedMoon wrote:
I wonder why I would have decided to imagine parts movie I that I have never seen before, strange indeed!


Stephan A. Schwartz, a journalist, analyst for the government and researcher has been following the trends in consciousness for many years.
He explains how non-local consciousness is an aspect of each of us that is not limited to space and time.
During remote viewing (non-local perception), meditative states, spiritual epiphany, moments of genius, precognition, deja vu, gut feeling, near death experiences,
we can access the collective information (some mystics call it the Akashic Record) present just below waking consciousness.
He thinks that all these experiences are the same thing modulated by context.

The video is at the bottom of the page: http://www.stephanaschwartz.com/.
Article: http://media.noetic.org/uploads/files/S10_Schwartz_OpeningToTheInfinite_lr.pdf


This explanation may shed some light on your ability to pick up scenes in the movie before watching it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:33 pm 
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I had a feeling it wasn't merely,

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The suggestibility of the music and sound effects together with your associations with said music created a fantastical canvas in your mind landscape. With the powers of consciousness and imagi(c)nation you created a sensorial alternate reality for yourself to experience.


It's probably a lot closer along these lines..

Michael Persinger on No More Secrets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l6VPpDublg

In fact in this scientific lecture, by a globally recognized expert in neurosciences, the acutal mechanism is discussed which has to do
with magnetic coupling between the earth and the brain and doesn't seem to require metaphysical speculation of an "akashic field" at all... a much more palatable and sensible explanation for those not into the more fictional of the 'New Age' paradigms.

Thanks for your response. I am into spirituality, but I won't settle with simple explanations.

Btw, this is the actual link for the frequencies I mentioned in my first post:

http://www.spiralstarz.com

These are clearly far more advanced and powerful, using much newer technology than the now very primitave, much older stuff from the Monroe Inst.

Binaural beats just don't cut it anymore for me, compared to these 'holographic' sounds.

Thanks for your response!

-'Munchkin Elle'


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:39 pm 
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Thanks Kat,

This video is great as it provides insight on the neural activity of the brain during instances of remote viewing & precognition.
The data suggests that the ideal condition to enable anybody to access the collective information is during the absence of geomagnetic storms,
and when one's right brain hemisphere activity is at 7 hertz; in congruence with the Earth's magnetic field - Schumann Resonance also 7 hertz.
This understanding also supports out of body experiences, phasing, lucid dreaming, occuring at Theta states of consciousness (4-7hertz)
http://thecrowhouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7281

However from this materialist position, it does not answer the question:
Where is the seat of consciousness?

Not just in the brain:
Recent scientific research suggests that consciousness actually emerges from the brain and body acting together.
A growing body of evidence suggests that the heart plays a particularly significant role in this process.
"Compared to the electromagnetic field produced by the brain, the electrical component of the
heart’s field is about 60 times greater in amplitude, and permeates every cell in the body."
http://www.mindfulmuscleblog.com/heart-has-consciousness/


Where is the seat of consciousness in people who experience Near Death Experiences (no brain activity)?

A well documented case involving a woman, Pam Reynolds had an operation called "standstill" to remove an artery aneurysm in her brain.
The total surgery lasted about 7 hours and the standstill took less than 1 hour.
She was clinically dead because she had no brain activity, but after revival was later able to accurately describe her
'out of body' observations of the operation. This is validated as being quite accurate.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence01.html

In the field of Epigentics, Biologist and research scientist Bruce Lipton discovered that DNA does not control the cells;
signals in the environment controls the cells and regulates life. He concluded that identity is outside the body, in the environment.
http://thecrowhouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8&start=20


Stephan A. Schwartz: submarine experiment, 'Deep Quest', using Remote Viewing helped determine that
non-local perception is not an electromagnetic phenomenon.
http://www.stephanaschwartz.com/biography/


Approximatley one quarter of 'Michael Persinger on No More Secrets' video references Ingo Swann,
the famous Remote Viewer and artist (who considers himself a consciousness researcher).
He did not restrict his remote viewing to Earth, he also remote viewed other planets and the moon.
For instance in 1973, Ingo Swann remote viewed and correctly discribed Jupiter before NASA-technology was able to
explore Jupiter and validate the information.
http://www.remoteviewed.com/remote_viewing_jupiter.htm
This suggests that consciousness in not just linked to the Earth's magnetic field.

While scientists have one way of interpreting the data from brain studies.
Ingo Swann, the direct participant obviously thinks of consciousness in an expansive way when he wrote his book "Reality Boxes"
and talks about how he is planning his next body, his next life (youtube videos).

In the below video Ingo Swann cites the 'Scientific American' magazine, scientisits and astronomers are discovering that
matter only accounts for only 4-7% of the universe; matter is not the only reality.
Ingo Swann - Human Super Sensitivities and the Future - 3/8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEVFsA4X65o

btw - 'Akashic Record' and the 'non-local consciousness' information are both metaphors for the collective information.


MaroonedMoon wrote:
http://www.spiralstarz.com
These are clearly far more advanced and powerful, using much newer technology than the now very primitave, much older stuff from the Monroe Inst.

You got me interested in this sound technology. Are there any samples to download?


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Please note that while the 'Scientific Method' is a good approximation to describe observations in a consensual physical reality, however understanding what we know about Quantum Physics & the 'Double Slit Experiment' the intensions and expectations of the experimenter can bias the results.
Ultimately the experiment relies on subjective interpretatation.
http://thecrowhouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6224&start=20

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:28 pm 
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Dreamingod wrote:
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MaroonedMoon wrote:
http://www.spiralstarz.com
These are clearly far more advanced and powerful, using much newer technology than the now very primitave, much older stuff from the Monroe Inst.

You got me interested in this sound technology. Are there any samples to download?


I haven't had a chance to check out all the links you posted but iIm excited to, and will get back to you on them A.S.A.P.

To answer you question, yep!
There is a youtube link here :http://www.youtube.com/spiralstarz777

You can also check out the other links I provided above...there's a different page there that I found has some very useful information on it concerning the nature of these particular frequency tracks: http://spiralstarz.com/bestsp.htm

If you scroll down you'll see all the info I'm talking about. ie:

"USING YOUR FREQUENCIES ;
FIRST, ensure you have watched this video in entirety
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI_z-PgwMhs

For most frequency kits, usage is simple. Place all of them on your player and play only the first 30 seconds of each ten minute track, skip through all nine playing only the first 30 seconds, note out of the nine which tracks effect you the most, likely there will be between 2 to 4 tracks that really stand out, you will feel this. Next, select only those tracks and loop these together for your session(s). Keep in mind that your body-mind will change its preference over time so you will need to do this through out the quarters of a given lunar month.

MORE USAGE INFO :
http://spiralstarz.com/howtouse.htm

ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE;
Grab a notepad and pen and keep these close to you. Once you have downloaded this track, set your volume fairly loud but within comfort levels. Loop the track and allow it to play for a minimum of 20 minutes. Close your eyes and sit in a comfortable position, breathe deeply in through your nose and out through your mouth. Relax.

Pay attention to what you are experiencing. Once the experience is over, grab your note pad and pen and write down the details of what you felt, saw, thought, experienced. Report these effects to our group(s)."


Quote:
Btw, this is the actual link for the frequencies I mentioned in my first post:

http://www.spiralstarz.com


I'm enjoying this conversatin, I'll get back to you soon!

-'Munchkin Elle'


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:20 am 
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I've tried out your links and watched the: FREQUENCY EFFECTS ON MIND, BODY - "HOW TO" GUIDE and
found that this sound technology does not relax me, although I can see how some people may find this helpful
in suppressing mind chatter. I guess I fall into the 40% of people that it does not work for.

It makes me feel jittery, like I'm in a computer 'glitch' because the seemingly random computer sound effects is not the normal continuous hum
that I am used to / associated with most meditation type music/binaural beats.

To other viewers, please give it a try because you may fall into the claimed "60%" of users that may work for you.

:dancer:


This interview reveals how a coma / near-death experience changed everything neurosurgeon and former skeptic,
Dr. Eben Alexander thought he knew about consciousness, spirituality, and life after death.

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One thing that we will have to let go of is this kind of addiction to simplistic, primitive reductive materialism because there’s really no way that I can see a reductive materialist model coming remotely in the right ballpark to explain what we really know about consciousness now.

Coming from a neurosurgeon who, before my coma, thought I was quite certain how the brain and the mind interacted and it was clear to me that there were many things I could do or see done on my patients and it would eliminate consciousness. It was very clear in that realm that the brain gives you consciousness and everything else and when the brain dies there goes consciousness, soul, mind—it’s all gone. And it was clear.

Now, having been through my coma, I can tell you that’s exactly wrong and that in fact the mind and consciousness are independent of the brain. It’s very hard to explain that, certainly if you’re limiting yourself to that reductive materialist view.


http://www.skeptiko.com/154-neurosurgeon-dr-eben-alexander-near-death-experience/

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:04 am 
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Dreamingod wrote:
I've tried out your links and watched the: FREQUENCY EFFECTS ON MIND, BODY - "HOW TO" GUIDE and
found that this sound technology does not relax me, although I can see how some people may find this helpful
in suppressing mind chatter. I guess I fall into the 40% of people that it does not work for.

It makes me feel jittery, like I'm in a computer 'glitch' because the seemingly random computer sound effects is not the normal continuous hum
that I am used to / associated with most meditation type music/binaural beats.

To other viewers, please give it a try because you may fall into the claimed "60%" of users that may work for you.



Interesting to hear. I know that the associations most have with sound frequency technology is the sleepy meditation sounds that our minds can fall asleep or enter a 'slower' brainwave state with. This technology, though, is nothing like that. They're actually tracks to calm you and aid in sleep, but most of these are made for exactly as mentioned on the webpage:

"New : Neuro-Clustering


Bio-Feedback Entrainment Tool

Imagine the possiblity of having and using a frequency that allows you to direct the tempo of a
certain thought or emotion to offset external stresses. This unique tool and method is unlike any
other on the planet and is the result of over fifteen years of dedicated research and development.
Highly precise acoustic models of parts of the conscious mind itself, something our body-mind is
already familiar with on a primal level, it already knows these sounds intuitively for these are the
sounds it naturally recognizes from nature and that it, itself generates and uses!

A NEW EXPERIMENTAL AND HIGHLY EFFECTIVE FORM OF BEHAVIOUR

AND CONSCIOUSNESS ENTRAINMENT.

The internal rhythmic tempo associated with various internal states, emotional, mental, physical


are mapped. These psycho-somatic patterns are captured as hyper-dimensional geometric forms.


The complex numeric series representing the movement of this object through space-time is translated


into sound.
"

So considering the nature of the technology I don't think that we can simply consider these to be, "random computer sound effects ". Although they may sound that way to you, they simply are not.

I believe that binaural tones are made for specific, albeit, simple brainwave states.
These frequencies , generated from different states of consciousness, objects, etc, all found in reality, as well as many other phenomena from nature, are all much more complex in sound.

For example frequency patterns, converted into sound, that are made by the planets, stars and as well as plants. These sounds are very strange and random sounding, but have a very real effect on reality and nature. We are surrounded by frequency patterns like these, and we put them out every single day.

http://news.discovery.com/space/for-new ... 10726.html
"Astronomers use several different methods to study how different chemicals emit and absorb radiation inside stars (and even black holes), but they get widely varying results.

Now astronomers think they might have a new technique for doing so, with an added bonus: it could also lead to a potential new cancer radiation treatment capable of precisely targeting tumors without damaging the surrounding healthy tissue."

And if you've ever heard what star and planet frequencies sound like.. they're pretty 'random' sounding... and we know they are not just random, but are specifically attributed to their own physical natures and constructs along with the radiation emitted form them.
Just as astrology tells us, these seemingly random frequency patterns effect us, and not to mention our radio frequency technology here on earth.

Here's some plant info.
http://www.rexresearch.com/agro/1strnhm.htm -plant songs
"The sound sequences are not random but are carefully constructed melodies. Each note is chosen to correspond to an amino acid in a protein with the full tune corresponding to the entire protein. What this means is that the sounds sequenced in just the right order results in a tune which is unique and harmonizes with the internal structure of a specific plant type."


These frequency tracks may 'seem' to be 'random' because of our limited and biased views of what frequency tracks, like the more simple singular humms, sound like.
When in reality they have been specifically modulated to sound just as they do.. (Which generate very specific holographic sound forms which are known to effect our own bodies internal rhythems and strutures in different ways depending on the track.)

Most of the tracks I am told, tend to energize. They are not all meant for meditating for relaxing. So I am not surprized you felt gittery.
The first time I listened, I meditated with closed eyes... and my eyelids fluttered wildly, like in REM state.

Which full track did you listen to? Was it an active or passive listening, and for how long did you allow the track to play, at what sort of level of volume?

I find it interesting to read the different effects people are getting from these. I've read that some people noticed intense effects right away like odd sound and vision anomalies, tingling sensations. Also, I have heard about uncomfortable feelings that tend to dissapate and go away after the recommended time to listen. These have been knonw to change into positive effects soon after.
Also, I have read that some people, including the proprieter have speculated that these 'negative effects' could be possible side effects to the 'clearing out' of other frequency patterns that do not mix well with the positive sound emulations. (Like the 'Herxheimer Reaction'.) (Kind of like unhealthy thought patterns getting pushed out, causing anxiety to the person who has personal attachments to them.)

(and note, these frequencies are formulated with harmonious mathematical structering only, one's that are considered to be part of what I call 'high spirited', as well as actual healing patterns found in nature, ie the patterns that help plants grow better, what scientists have found to be what your body resonates as in a healthy state, etc.)

Also in no way am I claiming that you must have been in a bad or skeptical state of mind or body during your listening experience.
Like you said, they scientist has noticed that some parts of the population can't get any effects from them whatsoever.
He also explaines that those who tend to get the most effects are known to be 'psychics' or 'empaths', which I know aren't typically that common in the world's population.

I am curious though about your mode of listening as I mentioned above.

Thanks for the articles and response. Very interesting stuff.


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