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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:56 pm 
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The banks see two benefits from austerity policies: the use of state power to enforce their claims that debts be repaid and they see asset prices driven down. The first goal is intuitive enough and it well explains why even in the U.S. government policies have been designed to facilitate debt repayment rather than to dismiss debts outright. No matter how malodorous the terms under which bankers lent the money, as long as borrowers can be forced to repay it, the banks benefit. And with sovereign debt, the "borrowers" being forced to repay the debt tend to be ordinary citizens who had little to do with incurring it and who just as likely saw no benefit from it.

The second benefit to bankers is less intuitive but more insidious. After all, why would banks want to see the value of the assets that are the collateral for the loans that they've made fall? The reason why is that the assets that the banks own are the loans that they've made and not the underlying collateral. As long as borrowers are forced to repay these loans the payments that the banks receive become worth more as collateral values fall because the money received will then buy more. Expand this idea to state assets in Greece and Italy and the banks can own water systems and roads from which they can extract fat incomes in perpetuity...


http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/18/ ... -politics/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:20 pm 
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No argument here, but the title is a bit mysterious to me. What does this have to do with ron paul?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:29 pm 
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So if the likes of Ron Paul do rally and raise enough support and money to become president and actually start to change these insidious moves that were all made to jump to by these banking elite, wouldn't he simply just disappear like the other nine who have come before him. So what Max says still stands, we can fight the system from within the system, mass no compliance is the only solution.

I believe a petition to our government to say we as the people choose NOT to be involved in voting because we are only encouraging the governments of our nation to lie and deceive us, and to give our HARD and getting herder earned money to the banking cartel. Was thinking how we could all boycott paying tax out of our weekly incomes because as far as I'm aware it is done by our financial people in the office. Maybe a mass organizational non compliance to order our money people to stop paying forward our taxes? Since there is no law, statute or anything to in force us doing so in Australia?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:34 pm 
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Nickp82 wrote:
...Was thinking how we could all boycott paying tax out of our weekly incomes because as far as I'm aware it is done by our financial people in the office. Maybe a mass organizational non compliance to order our money people to stop paying forward our taxes? Since there is no law, statute or anything to in force us doing so in Australia?

I don't know about Australia, but in America we actually fill out and sign tax forms authorizing the deduction of taxes from our income at the time we take on a new job. I imagine this is common around the "first" world. One idea to try, don't take a job under your government title, but rather under your natural title. What I call government title would be the title you use that has things like Social Security numbers and other state issued attachments tied to it. Your natural title would be the title you were born with. Generally the same name, the difference being that one was given to you by your parents at birth while the other was created by the government and issued to you for use to operate under their jurisdiction. Remember, anything you do under the government issued title is subject to their rule. If you don't want your job, property or anything else to fall under their jurisdiction, don't register said job or property under your government issued title.

Hmmm, maybe legally change the name that all your government issued attachments are linked to (Social Security and the like) and then just operate under your natural given title from then on. Good luck getting hired by a "reputable" company without a Social Security number or equivalent for your country. Self employment would be easiest. Maybe the confusion comes in due to the two titles being the same. I don't know. I should try these ideas out. On the other hand, what do I know? I'm just another blind fool born into this mess, stuck trying to figure it out on my own because we live in a world so full of crap that if it were given an enema the idea of a Hollow Earth would then be self-evident.

Now I'm getting a headache, so I bid you all good day and good luck.
Cheers!

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