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 Post subject: Palestine- Mad World
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:03 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Palestine- Mad World
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:03 pm 
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So very frustrating, so easy to fix! The earth has such wealth to be shared by all life. We can feed everybody. We can extend our life expectancy with good food and friends. There are many ways to solve our "problems" without resorting to violence, but we always do the "war". It's crazy :shock:
The Levant has been our ancestors highway and crossroads of trade. Our birthplace of knowledge. Why can't the nonsense of violence and greed stop now? Lets hope together jamilah.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:46 pm 
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no comment, I just don't know what to say here.People are dying for hundreds of years because others(dehumanized establishments) want to make profit from war and destruction.


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 Post subject: Re: Palestine- Mad World
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:11 am 
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I wish it was "so easy" to fix!
In theory I guess it's very simple....
But the problem that exists here is much more difficult than in other war torn countries, due to the opposing religions. The mass amount of brainwashed, narrow minded people who are so obsessed with their religion, not the true essence of their religion, but the twisted version that has the complete opposite effect on people than the essence of the religion is supposed to have, is the problem.

I have friends who are Religious Jewish Settlers, and becasue of a verse in the Torah that basically says to "cleanse the land of all idolators" They feel they have, not only the right, but the religious duty to god to murder innocent Palestinians destroy their homes, steal their lands and set up more settlements filled with people who share their same narrow minded twisted views on religion.

But they will have to literally murder every single last Palestinian in order to succeed becasue the Palestinian Muslims will die for Mosque Al Aqsa. It is 800 year old and was actually built to "cover up the nakedness of the sins of the Jews" as it was built on the ruins of the Jewish temple mount, where 2 of their temples once stood, but were destroyed by god for their sins.... they are promised a 3rd and final holy temple to be built in that exact spot, where the Al Aqsa Mosque and Dome of the Rock currently reside.

I been trying for years to find an open space in some of the closed minds that live here in hopes to shed a little light , and understanding, for the sake of peace, but I will always and only be considered a heretic as I'm am going against the word of god, even though I used their books (Torah Tanach and Talmud), quoting his words to give them a different perspective.... for example that according to gods word and Halacha (Jewish Law) all Jews are in exile and are forbidden to return to the holy land and take it by force, also that an exiled Jew does not have a home or home land, needs permission to live in any other country including Palestine, must reside in that foreign country peacefully and not vote or participate in any form of government. But nobody here cares about that they only used the words of god that help their cause.... cleansing the land of all idolators... which in it self is ridiculous becasue Muslims are not Idolators, but worship one God, and are also circumcised.

So.... if people are so hung up on their hate and so close minded that they wont even consider simple truths that exist within their own box, how then can we help them even see that they are living in a box?

We have just about given up trying to educate these religious settlers that we know becasue it's not possible to reach them from that angle. We've tried showing them videos like this and they only get off on it and make comments like, "thats what they get for attacking us!!!" Having any sort of two way conversation with them is near impossible and even the nice once will turn violent if you disagree with them and try to bring up the truth ab out what is really going on.

So for the last several years we have been focusing our efforts on helping the Palestinians with education about healthy living, and how their food and water is poisoned example: aspartame, Fluoride etc... and how their minds are being controlled and dumbed down with TV etc, and we have been planting organic gardens and been giving out organic seeds and encouraging people to plant organic gardens and return to the roots of their culture, which is an indigenous one.

Also there are many Jewish people here who dont agree with what their government is doing, they refuse to go to the army (which is mandatory for every Jewish individual at the age of 18) and willingly go to jail for their refusal. They do what they can to create peace. Many common people have no trouble being friends, regardless of religion... but the constant hate propaganda that is pumped out here has most Jewish people living in total fear of the monstrous Palestinians so they take the stand that they must murder the Palestinians before the Palestinians murder them...

So once again, it all falls back to the foundational building block of living in either love or fear, as long as the ruling elite have everyone locked into living in fear we will never move forward into a peaceful existence with one another.


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 Post subject: Re: Palestine- Mad World
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:53 pm 
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Hi Jamilah :dancer:
This knowledge we have now about the covert ones from the internet, we didn't know about the controllers and users until now Jamilah. We didn't look deep enough in the past and now we may have the information needed to make empathetic changes to human society. Peoples around the world are now aware of the manipulators in power. In order to fix any “problem” we first have to diagnose the root of the problem.
Looks like problems in your part of the world are aggravated somewhat with “religion”. In any group of individuals there is good and bad, any group......there should be no such barriers such as race, language, borders, wealth, and power. It's the “extreme” ends of each groups individuals who are in power and control. That can stop now please! Lets identify all the “extremists”, remove them from their influence and power and incarcerate them for criminal acts against man/womankind and nature.
There is a creator in all this but I don't subscribe to any formal “religion”. My belief is that it is mathematically (left brained) impossible for any religion to be “correct” in its assumptions. Religion seems more to me like “divide and conquer” by those in control (and I believe they have been in control since the Assyrians). Just look at the history of “religions” fighting against each other. Could be a purposeful activity to serve out power and profits for a few individuals who “stay behind” and never expose themselves to the violence.
I don't know the problems you see there every day and I feel that each day there is frightening. Seems to me that historically, the Levant has always had that “violence” curse. Let's hope the internet information is so strong as to wake enough people up to the nonsense happening in the world.
As for the “U.N.” involvement in Palestine and Israel, pile of crap! Where was the ”Useless Nations” when the hutus and tutsis were killing each other in Rwanda? It's another U.S. ruse. The recent protests in Israel have not been shown on the MSM here. Just like many important recent affairs have not been shown on the propaganda machine. But now we see them on the internet alternate news. :metal: More and more of us are waking up (except for the dogmatic religious believers). We can still do this as you and I talk to our friends and neighbors to bring them up to speed about the users/manipulators in our societies.

""Every gun that is made, every war ship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, from those who are cold and not clothed...."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=27627


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 Post subject: Re: Palestine- Mad World
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:00 am 
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It tears my heart to see such suffering. I am another yourself.

Why do so many people feel so little compassion for their fellow man? Is it something we are taught? If you put an Israeli toddler and a Palestinian toddler together, without teaching them first to hate, will they not naturally play together?

If people lived by the Golden Rule (do unto others as we'd have done unto ourselves) war would not be possible... hunger would be eradicated, harmony would be the natural state of existence.

No one is stopping us from being compassionate... but ourselves. It's harder to do our part, when the other guys are lashing out against us, but remember, everything is energy. One person concentrating on peace and love may be as subtle as the Butterfly Effect. But if a group of people came together regularly, with the common intention of melting away fear and anger with the power of love, what might that do? This is what is known as the Maharishi Effect. Such collective thought has been shown to reduce crime in afflicted areas.

We all have the power to do this. It's just that society has told us we can't. With a little practice, we can. When we practice changing from within, with the intent of changing the physical, miracles become manifest.

In lak'ech,

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 Post subject: Re: Palestine- Mad World
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@ Noa:
Thank you for your kind words, compassionate heart and your wisdom : )
Welcome to the Crowhouse :greet:
Jamilah


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 Post subject: Re: Palestine- Mad World
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WAR IS THE KILLING OF HUMANS AND NATURE BY THE 1% WHO MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT. WAR IS WRONG AND ILLEGAL AND THROUGH THE TRUTH PROCESS CURRENTLY BEING SHARED BY THE GLOBAL FAMILY THESE ARMS DEALING PASSPORT PAPER MAKING FALSE HUMANS OF THE LOWEST CAPACITY WILL END. THEY ARE IN SIN, THEY HAVE BEEN AT WORK A LONG TIME MANIPULATING THE PLANET AND PEOPLE AND THE RESOURCES TO THE MAX. BUT THEIR KARMA HAS RUN OUT. THEIR WORDS ARE POINTING TO WHAT THEY ARE, THEY ARE THE "TERRORISTS" AND USE OF FEAR DOES NOT WORK AGAINST GOD REALIZED BEINGS. THE GLOBAL FAMILY STANDS IN UNITY OF TRUTH PROCESS AND ALL EFFORTS INVESTED IN FINDING OUT MORE OF WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF AS THE PEACE MAKERS AGAINST WAR MAKERS WHO LIE WILL BE REWARDED AN THIS LIFE AND THE AFTER LIFE. WE ARE ETERNAL BEINGS, AND OUR ACTIONS ARE FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN, FUTURE GENERATIONS OF ALL LIFE AND GOD.
WE ARE WINNING! WE SHALL WIN.
AND EACH STEP OF THE WAY IS IN PERFECT DETACHMENT, DOING OUR BEST AND LEAVING THE REST TO GOD.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:10 am 
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Thank you for your posts Jamilah.I've often wondered how close you to the "danger zone" and what life might be like for you,but never had the courage to ask. I guess the creator thought it was time I saw them if for no other reason than to give me a swift kick in the arse.I haven't made any posts for while as I let myself get caught in an old trap. Most of last year I was working 60 to 80 hours a week and then got fired for taking one to many days off to try and recover. When that happened I just withdrew into myself and except for checking the alternate news sights I pretty much ignored the whole world.A few weeks ago I finally started to come out of it as I realized I was giving the ptb's exactly what they want,total compliance.I started volunteering at a local animal shelter to try to serve the best I can. I'm a far cry from the best at talking about the world situation and root cause to people,heck I can't even get my wife to shut off the tv and watch a film or talk about it.My Parents and hers are devout christians and that has made for some interesting conversations.I was getting very frustrated and very dejected about the whole thing but after reading you're posts I guess if you can do it with the tremendous stresses around you I should be able to keep it up in little ol' small town America.As far as religion is concerned I believe it is just another tool used by the ptb's to try to further divide us.Thats one of the many reasons I like "Imagine" by John Lennon so much.Thanks again and stay safe. And thanks to all the members of the forums,I get something useful from everyone!

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Hey Doug, I thought I had replied to your post a long time ago.... but now I see I havent. Forgive me, I'm so bad at this kind of stuff... I post something and then I never have the time to follow up on it.

I agree with so much of what you said.... For me religion is pure and basic, it works for me, but for many people it is not a healthy path and it is being controlled and twisted by corrupt leaders who take people away from the basic message and keep everyone in little boxes of fear. This is true for every religion.

What I love about Islam is that we accept all the prophets and holy scriptures. The message is the same, be clean (mentally and spiritually as well as physically), walk on a straight path and do no harm to anything or anyone. Anything beyond that is too much for me and I tend to tune out. I have friends from every walk of life and I dont care if people choose a religious structure for their lives or not... It's the depth of a persons heart and willingness to act in positive/constructive ways that are important, not what religion or lack of religion they choose.

As far as the root of the problem goes, the sad part is that the elite have infected every part of the tree, not just the root, and the root extends into every part of life. I know we can uproot this problem, collectively.... The UN has so many people fooled here. They give out flour sugar and medicine for free to poor Palestinians... as if thats going to solve anything, and to tell you something scary, I made bread on my wood stove with some of this flour and the left over bread never went bad or got moldy... after I noticed that the bread was not changing in anyway I decided to see how long I can keep the bread before it starts to decompose and I've had a piece for over a year and it looks like I just made it. It's hard now, not soft but has never grown any mold.... I also tell people not to take the vitamins the UN gives out, I cant even imagine whats really in them, but the people are so happy to receive anything for free that you cant reason with them, so what can I do? I just keep on doing what I do and hope the seeds I plant turn into self sustaining farms.

Anyway......Thank you Doug for taking the time to respond to my post... I love all the stuff you post on here, the problem is that I'm not on the computer too often and when I am I'm kind of a dunce about it.

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Thank you for your positive and inspiring words. I love uniting with people who realize all these wars are nothing more than fear based propaganda. Helping people see, especially the soldiers who are fighting these wars, the truth about them isnt so easy to do, it takes a lot of prayer and patience. I have several friends who serve in the Israeli Army and they honestly believe they are defending themselves against "monsters" who threaten their rights to exist. These people justify all their actions and make excuses for everything, always pointing fingers and blame shifting. In order for anyone to grow, evolve and move forward to higher frequencies an honest look within is needed and people who are completely brainwashed and programmed to think that murdering little Palestinian children is in the best interest of the country have also been programmed to never look within and think for themselves, so how can we break this vicious cycle? Like you said the whole world is waking up.... it cant be too much longer before something here gives and the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is looked at with a balanced eye by the people involved and fueling the conflict. If the ones fighting their wars refuse to do so we will have peace because the elite will never do any of the dirty work, they depend on the common slaves to do it for them. I hope I am around to see such a resistance, and celebrate true freedom, freedom for everyone involved, including the Israeli's as most of them are so trapped in fear based propaganda they cant function as normal individuals. Of course their traps cant compare to the outright hell the Palestinians live in.... and as an individual trying to raise children in Occupied East Jerusalem I can tell you it is not so easy to keep them from hating Israelis... but I make sure they stay in contact with all sides here (Muslim, Jewish, Christian, etc) so they can mature with a balanced view and compassionate understanding.

Swanyjd~
Thank you for sharing your heart and your struggles with me. I feel your pain, and encourage you to move through life day by day, step by step and enjoy every possible moment, each moment, no matter how stressful can offer an opportunity to connect to our true divine inner self and it is through that connection with ourselves that we come to know our creator and learn how to naturally radiate the amazing light of his love, this which is beyond words is what people feel, pick up on and connect to. Even the most enlightening words can feel hollow if the one speaking them is disconnected from himself and his creator, yet someone who is connected can have a powerful effect on people without uttering a single word. Sometimes I just have to stop speaking (preaching) and just live my life here, and by the example I create through living life makes people start wanting the same things, because they feel something about it, some sort of connection and they want that too... we all do. Don't worry too much that you cant get your wife to turn off the TV... how about asking her out on a fun outdoor activity, even if it's just a walk or a picnic or going to a museum. I, many years ago, had a husband who turned into a tv zombie, and I realized that the more I mentioned it or tried to get him to turn it off the more he became attached to it, so I just started to make plans for us to do stuff outside and he would come a long and even enjoy himself. In that time conversations happened naturally and I was able to share my point of view about things in a way that didnt make him feel uncomfortable.

As far as the Danger Zone goes, I live in the country part of occupied East Jerusalem, but really we are Palestine, West Bank. and Israel doesnt supply us with basic services. We are surrounded by police roads and razor wire and electric fences, but it's mostly quiet. We've definitely had our share of dangerous situations, witnesses all types of human rights violations, violence and even murder of an innocent Palestinian young man by the Israeli Army. Everyone we know has either been in jail, been beaten, tortured or has a very close family member in jail now, many friends we have here have had their homes demolished and have had family members murdered, arrested, tortured etc.... but it's they way of life here, constant harassment and threat of violence. My oldest son is in hiding again to avoid being arrested for refusing to serve in the Israeli Army, he has been denied basic services and benefits for refusing to serve, it is mandatory by law for individuals with a Jewish relative to enter into the army at the age of 18, so even though my son is a Muslim and practices Islam since his grandmother, (my mother) is Jewish he must serve in the army even though we are Muslim, since he refuses he cannot go to school , work, travel or leave the country, was on house arrest and now is facing a military jail sentence. So the occupation effects everyone, even peaceful volunteers like us. BTW~ We have also volunteered at the animal shelter here in Jerusalem, it is very rewarding work. We even rescued a dog that was tied up and starving to death in Jericho. So keep up the good work and remember that every kind act has the weight of a thousand kind acts and no matter how small or insignificant it may seem it carries an unstoppable light that no one can take away from you. Every single one of us is special and talented and every single one of us has a divine light and creativity. So just connect with your true nature and be yourself, thats the best thing to be. We are all different but equal notes in this cosmic song of eternal life and we all need each other. Only when we work together in harmony can we truly realize the full scale of our existence. So dont ever think of yourself or actions as insignificant because nothing could be further from the truth.

Thank you everyone for being my internet family. Love and endless waves of deep inner peace forever,
Jamilah Palestine


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