Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:53 am Posts: 323 Location: Vienna Austria
I am just wondering when it is we stop taking video and start taking some sort of preventive action or advocate for those we find in such situations. It is hard. How are we supposed to stop a thing? Personally, I have only encountered a few situations over here where I feel it is essential for me to stand by making certain that the 5 officers around a person know I am there, watching what they do. Won't even get into situations back in the US. But its the least that can be done. I don't know. Maybe I am wrong. This is the first time i've seen any of this footage. Was avoiding it. Seeing isn't enough. Taking video isn't enough. I am sure they blocked the way down, you can't jump across subway tracks in a circumstance such as this..but is "hey" enough?? There was a comment on this on youtube from someone who said it is unclear what happened. Is it really unclear? An obviously unarmed, restrained man in a sitting position prior to the shooting, is shot and killed. There are 3 officers all standing during this process, one of them the shooter. So..what exactly is unclear? Sorry for the verbal vomit, but this could have been one of my sons; one of my sons friends who are also like my sons; this was someone's son, someone's father, brother, friend. This was my brother; one to all of us, a fellow human being. This was a person I will never see, never meet; but I guess who has given us all something in his death, that is a gift that is huge, terrible but at the same time hopeful and of imminent importance. We are not separate. What happens to one, happens to all. So please, wake the hell up.
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Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:41 am Posts: 250 Location: USA
What I just watched was unbeleiveable. The cop just stood up pulled his gun and shot him. All the cops and even one of the other victims looked shocked at what happened. What did these guys do?
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:53 am Posts: 323 Location: Vienna Austria
have no idea Callum. really it doesn't matter either, they were subdued/restrained/sitting. read article that said they were pulled off a subway; but i think that regardless of the context in which this occurred: meaning the circumstances which led to their their confinement at the moment of the shooting, is erroneous. there is nothing that justifies the shooting in the back of a restrained, prone man. nothing justifies killing imho period. but this should be raising an outcry of previously unheard proportions. by the way i am not meaning to be disrespectful in dismissing your question:) i understand the desire to know what makes a thing how it is; i just think we all need to focus on what happened here, the shooting itself; as an example of just how utterly and completely in control of the population the American gov't is.
Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:41 am Posts: 250 Location: USA
YouTube removed the video.
I understand the fact the cop had no grounds to shoot this man. If you can find the video again and watch it the victims arms are not restrained.
I am not making lite of this at all. We all need to remember that when the crap really hits the fan and you fight back they will kill you.
They have all the weapons and they only show us what they want us to see. When their truly ready it won't be humans killing humans it will be machines doing it.
My theory is this and it may sound way the heck out there.
When they can mass produce their slaves and no longer need a Man and Woman to do it our time on this planet is over.
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:53 am Posts: 323 Location: Vienna Austria
Thanks for drawing that dead link to my attention..fixed on my youtube but not here^^ As to your thoughts, i respect your opinion, but must state emphatically: we will NOT allow that to become the eventuality. It's why we are here in this forum, its why we still go on youtube despite the censorship, it's why we cannot just stand idly by. hugs callum, and keep your chin up:) energy is on our side. remember-you can extinguish the dark with but a match; but the dark cannot ever extinguish the light.
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:41 am Posts: 174 Location: Tylden, Victoria...Oz
Dear mrr
You posted a video the other day regarding the RFI Chip. The guy who does this video blog has, last time I checked, the same video on his site including his comments, which are really good. He goes by the name of UROUTofTime. I really like him.
What I want to know is...is our plan for humanity to just "BE" (very hard) I'm working on it, in the meantime these things happen....My heart hurts, I want to get mad!!! and yet I am learning that this is not the way. I can see we need to think, feel in a different way..............I'm there but cannot see YET.
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:53 am Posts: 323 Location: Vienna Austria
mezz..hugs to you. i hear you and understand where you are and you are not alone..im right there with ya. some days i just cant seem to fit my own housekey into the lock, let alone how to be "change." i guess i really really like Gregg Braden's learning in regard to prayer, though i can only paraphrase it, tons of videos on it though (and ill try to come back with a nice link for ya) you do things to create a feeling, and the prayer is the feeling, not the things you do to bring about that feeling. it's not the words, the bells or whistles or whathaveyou..it's the actual feeling itself.
around 5:05 or so he begins to speak of something i hope that helps ya:) Max does have this on his youtube, but i put the link for it from another user who is worth checking out, as positive sources of info are always good to have. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=CM8_fxe0T ... re=related
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:41 am Posts: 174 Location: Tylden, Victoria...Oz
Thank you !! mrr.... I was thinking that I might burn it on a DVD and play it in my bedroom - go to sleep with it on so that my body can absorb it. Do you think it would work ??
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:53 am Posts: 323 Location: Vienna Austria
matter of fact mezz, yep i do. i know that i have fallen asleep watching both positive and negative things all throughout my lifetime, and that my friend is few years:), but when i have fallen asleep to those things that are of a positive nature my sleep is lighter(?) but more satisfying, and with negative things, heavier, darker dreams, and i wake up feeling pretty uptight. that is just my own experience, although i hope that yours is similiar!
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